2008 09 15: TROY INTERVIEWS LEO LYON ZAGAMI #13 – 135 MINS.

2008 09 13: TRoY iNTeRVieWS Leo LYoN ZaGaMi #13 – 135 MiNS.

FIRST NEW LEO ZAGAMI INTERVIEW IN THREE MONTHS:

LEO ZAGAMI – 2008 09 15 – TROY – SKYPE INTERVIEW 13 – REALITYRESEARCH.WORDPRESS.COM – 135 MINS.mp3

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For the first time in almost three months Leo & I have a conversation & we have a lot of catching up to do & cover much ground.

 

Leo Lyon Zagami, Illuminati reformer, has been working behind the scenes since he came back to Europe.

He mentions his arrest in Norway when he went there in late July, while he was on the way to the courtroom.

We discuss the schism that developed that meant that the meeting in Monte Carlo didn’t go ahead. However the meeting on July 13 in Nice did. This consisted of about 10 Italian & a similar number of French participants, headed by Jean-Pierre Giudicelli who announced that he would no longer be associating with the Masonic Executive Committee & wouldn’t attend their next meeting in September. Leo’s friend Monique Armstrong from the International Fellowship of Jews & Christians was also there. Leo described the meeting as a beautiful event that will be talked about for decades to come.

Ezio Giunchiglia & Giorgio Hugo Balestrieri both of the Monte Carlo Masonic Executive Committee instead met with Dr Marco Paret (NLP – Neuro Linguistic Programming – Master Trainer, associate of alledged MI5 operative Jonathan Boulter) in Monte Carlo at their own meeting.

Links for Marco Paret:

http://marco-paret.pnl-3.com/english.htm

http://conference.personalcoaching.ws/marco_paret.htm

http://conference.personalcoaching.ws/nice_french_riviera.htm

Ezio Giunchiglia, P2 treasurer & high-level Masonic luminary:

http://users.libero.it/rennes/


Ezio Giunchiglia

Photo of Monte Carlo Masonic Executive Committee Secretary-General & longtime P2 Mason (Licio Gelli’s #2), Ezio Giunchiglia & Leo Lyon Zagami at Ezio’s house in Monte Carlo:

Ezio Giunchiglia e Leo Zagami a Sanremo dall'Avvocato Murgia by soulinspirationpix.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24089748@N02/2289144503/in/set-72157603981160859/

Balestrieri had influenced Giunchiglia, who in turn influenced Peret. Leo suggests that Giudicelli’s connections with the Bologna train station bombing in the early 1980′s are something that Balestrieri may have used as leverage.

Mentions P2 Mason G.H. Balestrieri’s links with the Carlyle Group, George W. Bush & his father, Giuliani & 9/11. There was a Carlyle Group meeting in Monte Carlo on on July 12 & that Balestrieri attended. Leo states that 400 participants were in on 9/11, including certain P2 Masons, particularly Balestrieri (also the head of the Rotary Club of the UN in New York) as a planner & orchestrator.

For more on Balestrieri, see:

http://leozagami.wordpress.com/category/leo-zagamis-p2-masons/

The Muslim Gulen Movements (that Leo’s separated wife is a high member of) connections with such people betray the selling out to Western elites.

Mentions how Alex Jones & David Icke don’t name names beyond the obvious contenders when it comes to 9/11.

Leo’s Ordo Illuminatorum Universalis has won out over the Monte Carlo Executive Committee now that events of last year had taken a number of the Italian high-level Masons out of the equation & Leo had gathered support from the French.

Jokes about the jet set & players on the Cote d’Azur.

I discuss my recent trip to Paris, where among my many adventures I visited the Masonic Grand Orient to see the Museum & mention searching for the Jesuit & SMOM Knights of Malta HQ’s & the proximity of the SMOM’s second Paris base to the Pont de l’Alma underpass where Princess Diana died.

Leo comments that the possibility of Diana having a Muslim child meant that in the Illuminati’s eyes she needed to be murdered.

Jean-Pierre de Giudicelli’s personal tragedies are discussed & the troubles that the Powers That Be (including the corporate giants & the Zionist lobby) leading back to the Vatican can create for those who get out of line.

The Monte Carlo & P2 Lodges Operation Gladio connections of the “strategy of tension” are touched on.

Leo states his intention for the OIU to have an HQ in Monte Carlo, now that the split has manifested within the MEC.

The Gulen Movement’s fundamental principles lie in the Ottoman Turkish Empire & share that source with Nazis.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_von_Sebottendorf to make the connection.

Balestrieri & Jonathan Boulter (of the Priory of Sion in England – which is currently disassociated from the Nice-based Priory, RGLE Mason with Nazi tendencies says Leo) are linked in here. Leo’s disassociation from the “dark side of the Illuminati” began when he was in London & around Boulter & others.

The predicted financial collapse that is now arriving is reflected on & Leo advises people to think about where they want to be headed.

I ask Leo about why he agreed in Norway not to see his son again due to Norwegian PST intelligence threatening him while interrogating him just prior to the court case with 15 years in prison. Leo discusses the court scene & the allegations of threats made based upon emails of friends of Leo, which were in fact saying that Leo was concerned for his son’s safety should he go to a Muslim state like Turkey, now that Leo is an apostate of Islam.

The Norwegian PST & Police accused each other of being the “Bad Cop”. The Norwegian authorities questioned Leo about internet researchers Phil Jonkers (forum admin at http://leozagami.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=57 ) & Halvor ( https://en.xiandos.info/Category:Leo_Zagami ).

Fatma Suslu has changed her name to Hanife Suslu & now has Leo’s old mobile phone number of 10 years, as well as her own previous one. A copy of the email Leo mentions is detailing this is appended below.

The underground bases (created by the Nazis of Germany & expanded latter with Rockefeller money) in Norway are affirmed as being non-fictitious.

The Swedish Rite & Norwegian Freemasonry at the highest degree is very much related to End of Times prophetic/messianic concerns.

I mention that Bernard Baus, former Norwegian Masonic Grand Master’s wife is Roman Catholic. Leo states that the Swedish Rite represents as secret link with the Catholic Church is blessed by the Pope. In Norway most priests are Freemasons, despite the Rite’s Protestant front.

References:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Rite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Order_of_Freemasons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Paus

I ask Leo if he has spoken with the makers of “Encyclopedia of Conspiracy”, the new 2-hour documentary about him (now out on DVD) release since it was filmed in Oslo early this year.

See:

http://negativewarmachine.com/home/index.php

Leo reflects upon his satisfaction with being involved in planning the Awareness Center in Dallas that Monique Armstrong is coordinating.

The assets & financial wherewithal of the Illuminazis is contrasted with the idealistic but not so monetarily liquid parties.

Leo’s Myspace page managed by Eric Markham is discussed:

http://www.myspace.com/leozagami

Count Vivian Vivaldi III’s statement that Leo had a couple of SMOM Knights of Malta as guests is thrown Leo’s way & Leo states that as he is now Leo is now Ambassador for the International Mediterranean Grand Lodge of Freemasons of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite for the Grand Lodge of Sicily he has been in dialogue with the Knights of Malta. We later find out that the International Mediterranean Grand Lodge’s main base is in Malta.

RITO SCOZZESE ANTICO E ACCETTATO

GIURISDIZIONE ITALIANA

 

 

Gran Loggia

di Sicilia

 

Mediterranean

Grand Lodge

International

Mediterranean

Grand Lodge

* Grand Lodge of Sicily website:

http://www.granloggiadisicilia.org/index.htm

* Open letter from the “Supreme Council of the A:.A:.S:.R:. … ANCIENT and ACCEPTED SCOTTISH RITE … JURISDICTION ITALY” ["SUPREMO CONSIGLIO DEL R:.S:.A:.A:. ... RITO SCOZZESE ANTICO E ACCETTATO ... GIURISDIZIONE ITALIANA"] “To the reserved Convent required in Malta” ["DAL CONVENTO RISERVATO TENUTO A MALTA"] in Italian & translated into English dated December 27 2007:

http://www.granloggiadisicilia.org/documenti/Solstizio%20d%27Inverno%202007.htm

This then brings us to Leo mentions internal tensions within the Vatican & how he met up with his former mentor from his very young days with Vatican Radio, Don Mario Pieracci

http://www.international.rai.it/cristianita/mariopieracci.shtml

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=391331762&albumId=0

Leo was also with the Vatican/Catholic Television & laughed about how the archives contain a lot of footage of him from back then.

Rome’s intentions to bring in Islam as the religion for the West. We hear about the “last Pope”. Malachi’s Prophecies are contrasted with those of Muhammed & his successors & I bring up those of Revelation 17 & 18 referring to Rome.

The violence that will be wrought from the Vatican’s material ambitions is considered.

Leo has not met with the Jesuits & mentions Jesuit Thomas Michel being friendly with Fethullah Gulen, who Leo holds largely responsible for his wife leaving him & him now not being able to see his son.

I bring up my recent research into the Constantinian Order & point out the Franco-Neapolitan branch connections to the P2 lodge, Arab royalty & heads of state, top Vatican cardinals & Knights of Malta the business deals of the Grand Master the Duke of Castro’s wife’s families involved in military & satellite equipment.

See:

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/category/constantinian-order-franco-neapolitan/

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/category/constantinian-order-hispano-neapolitan/

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/category/constantinian-order-pre-1960-split/

The claimed honourable intentions of the Knighthood Orders contrasted with business interests over various shades of ethicality is touched on.

Leo maintains a distinction between the Holy Roman Empire & the Papacy.

Three quarters of the planet will suffer from famines & wars in the next few years & the need for solutions must be worked out without delay.

Ghandi’s methodology (& his connections) are considered, as is Giordano Bruno’s. Leo has studied Bruno closely & this spurs him to discuss some interesting matters related to him.

Leo maintains that the worst of the economic situation is being delayed till after the forthcoming election.

It is mentioned that we may find out more detail on Leo’s work in Europe in an upcoming conversation.

LEO ZAGAMI – 2008 09 15 – TROY – SKYPE INTERVIEW 13 – TROYSPACE2.WORDPRESS.COM – 135 MINS.mp3

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THE EMAIL FROM LEO TO HIS NORWEGIAN LAWYER, ARNE BERDAL, AS MENTIONED ABOVE & IN THE INTERVIEW:

 

Leo Lyon Zagami
15/09/2008 20:58
o Zagami to Arne Berdal Mon.15 Sept.2008Monday, 15 September, 2008 7:22 PM
From: “leo young” Add sender to Contacts
To: arneberdal@c2i.net
Dear Arne,
I still as you know have not been able to get back my old two phones but now I made a very disturbing discovery on the net you can check for yourself on this official link from the telefonkatalogen:

http://www.gulesider.no/tk/search.c?q=Hanife+suslu&x=44&y=9

Fatma Süslü that now calls herself Hanife Süslü as apparentely stolen my old mobile phone number I had for nearly ten years
Hanife Süslü
Vestlisvingen 90, 0969 Oslo 984 11 581
and also got back her old one
Hanife Süslü
Vestlisvingen 90, 0969 Oslo XXX XX XXX

How is possible that Fatma is given by the authorities my old phone number that was confiscated to me on the 5th of March (984 11 581) , did they also give her my old phones as well ??!! I cant tollerate this kind of bullshit and further corruption from the Norwegian police authorities anylonger dear Arne , so please make contact with me asap on XXXXXXXXXXXX because this is a very important issues indeed. The 98411581 number was used by me for my private business and friends for a very long time dear Arne , and should stay stritcly private and only connected to me, so I find this discovery absolutely shocking and if I found out this phone number and possibly my phone have been used by Fatma in the last few months Im gonna sue the police for this abuse of power and violation of my privacy.
Best regards,
Leo Lyon Zagami

 


LEO ZAGAMI – 2008 09 15 – TROY – SKYPE INTERVIEW 13 – REALITYRESEARCH.WORDPRESS.COM – 135 MINS.mp3

 

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